What does Norway say about Arafat?

"Yasir Arafat will be remembered as the one who brought the Palestinians together as a people. And the process towards a Palestinian state will continue after his death" - Torbjørn Jagland, Labor. (More like revive.)

"Arafat's contribution to the Palestinian sense of identity and its nation building will remain standing after his departure. I will particularly remember Arafat for his change from terrorism and guerilla fighting to peace negotiations." - Prime Minister Kjell Magne Bondevik, Christian People's Party. (There and back again, a terrorist's tale.)

"I will remember Arafat as the father of terrorism, one who lived by and for war. He didn't want peace, he dedicated his entire life to the extinction of the Israeli state. Luckily he failed." Carl I. Hagen, Progress Party. (Hagen's latest voter appeal is likely to fail.)

"When Palestine is an independent state, for that day is coming, Yassir Arafat will be celebrated as a national hero and a father of the nation." - Einar Hagvaag, Dagbladet. (And his death will be remembered as the greatest contribution of them all.)

"Instead of seizing the chance for peace, Arafat saw himself as a new Saladdin, who would liberate Jerusalem by force." - Johannes Morken, Vårt Land.

"Arch enemy of the Jews, Arafat has never been a dove of peace, but a terrorist, murderer, corrupt tyrant, and an enemy of peace and human rights." - The Norwegian Israel Center, (who made the mistake of saying this in an NTB press release. NTB cancelled their agreement with the center.)

"One of the reasons why his legitimicy as a leader was undermined on the Palestinian side, was that there to a larger and larger degree was agreement in the leadership and among a large portion of the Palestinian population that Arafat over the last four years had lead the Palestinians in the wrong direction." - Terje Rød Larsen, UN envoy of Oslo Accords fame.

"Arafat's strength was that he was with the Palestinians, he was their leader and their symbol of a long journey through victories and defeats, joy and despair - a kind of Moses." - Odd Kristian Reme, Labor politician and Palestine activist. (Like Moses, Arafat's pride needlessly prolonged his people's desert journey.)

"Those who believe they will solve a political problem once Arafat is gone, may be wrong. It could be difficult to find a leader who is even more moderate than Arafat." - Martin Holter, The Joint Committee for Palestine. (In other words the Palestinians might as well give up.)

"Arafat appeared with a tactical Janus face, where he tricked the international community into believing that he had ended his period of terrorism, and now was a peaceful head of state." - Karl Johan Hallaråker, Indremisjonsforbundet. (For hundreds of millions and a peace prize, who can blame him?)

"Arafat's contribution to peace in the Middle East was to take one step ahead, and two backwards. I hope that era is over now." - Finn Kristian Marthinsen, Christian People's Party, and member of Friends of Israel.

"Even though it is very sad that Arafat has died, his death will also lead to something positive. The US and Israel now no longer have any reason not to negotiate with the Palestinians." - Fuad Timraz, Palestinian immigrant and activist.

"Good riddance, and better luck with the next one." - Bjørn Stærk, web pundit. (Hm, how did that make it into the list? I blame nepotism!)

Well, not all of us do......

Well, not as glowing as I expected.

Unfortunately, I think most if not all of the codes were turned over. What sweet irony if his billions were locked away in Swiss bank accounts.

Damn. And after Miss Piggy told Al-Jazeera he was fine and would be going home...

"Good riddance, and better luck with the next one." - Bjørn Stærk, web pundit. (Hm, how did that make it into the list? I blame nepotism!)

LOL

He probably been dead for days they probably just tracked his billions - which a Danish reporter made a great effort - I couldn´t help laugh - to explain as being placed on swizz accounts for all other reasons than corruption, same reporter would not hesitate a split second insinuating that US went into Iraq for anything else than democracy.

I sure hope this will open for a new peace process but with Faruq Qaddumi in charge of Fatah we will see about that.

But let´s hope the best for all parts involved.

Every time you walk through an airport metal detector, rememember that it's Arafat's contribution to our world.

Good riddance. The lies around his death made for the perfect ending to his life.

I'm impressed. More balanced than I expected.

I will guess that a lot of the readers don't have access to norwegian media, particularly television. That's good for you.
The eulogizing of Arafat has been truly nauseating.
NRK has, as the usual suspect, been the worst. If one watched the daily newscast, Dagrevyen, one would easily think a humanist, greater than Mother Theresa has just passed away.
Not a word about Jordan 1970. Not a word about Damour. Not a word about Leon Klinghoffer.
Just about the brave freedom fighter. But it has been the same on other mainstream media, newspapers, TV, radio.
It is obvious that we as a nation has lost our moral compass.
Naiseating and shameful.

PS. NRK will, as a service to it's customers show a directly televised broadcast of the late "presidents" funeral in Cairo tomorrow.

Gunnar: I'm impressed. More balanced than I expected.

Several of the critical euologies are from fairly marginal people. The quotes covers the width of opinions, but not the relative weight. Jagland and Bondevik probably speak for the majority.

I'm most impressed with Terje Rød Larsen myself. He seems to have had some sort of awakening about Arafat. You don't need to be pro-Israeli to realize that Arafat was a crook.

>> It is obvious that we as a nation have lost our moral compass. Nauseating and shameful.

Oh well. I take it back. Hey, you can easily find 4 million americans with the same problem, or worse. NYC goes crazy when Castro visits.

Still, it makes me sick to think about. An unreformed son of a Nazi and grandfather of terror, eulogized. Maybe Quisling wasn't such a Quisling after all.

Arafat's legacy in Damour:

They were coming, thousands and thousands, shouting 'Allahu Akbar! God is great! Let us attack them for the Arabs, let us offer a holocaust to Mohammad 'And they were slaughtering everyone in their path, men, women and children.'

http://www.free-lebanon.com/LFPNews/psa/psa.html

Psst... do you know why the doctors don't want to mention his cause of death? The "mysterious illness"? And his wife lived in another country? Connect the dots. He died of ---S.

Hi. Just looking for some confirmation of this:
http://www.andrewsullivan.com/index.php/index.php?dish_inc=archives/2004_11_07_dish_archive.html#110006181630066757

It's about a Kristallnacht march in Oslo. Sounds fishy to me...
Thank you and sorry that this is off-topic

Anonymous, NY :

The article you refer to, is unfortunately, not very accurate.

Try this one :
http://vyer.typepad.com/hereticsalmanac/2004/11/update_on_krist.html#more

Though its not very objective, IMHO, atleast it do provide a more complete description of the incident. Furthermore it do link to some good sources, unfortunately most of which are in norwegian.

Regards

Ylving

Thank you

"(Like Moses, Arafat's pride needlessly prolonged his people's desert journey.)"

One minor correction, it wasn't Moses that needlessly prolonged his people's desert journey. It was the people themselves who believed the discouraging advice of the majority of the 12 spies when they made their report of the promised land.

When thinking of Arafat and his contribution, it's always useful to remember this fact:

According to the Camp David agreements of 1979, the Palestinians were supposed to achieve autonomy (not independence, but close) in two years. It's now almost 2005. That's 24 utterly wasted years--wasted by Arafat and his gang of thieves.

For those who feel sorry for the "poor Palestinians" who are "mistreated by those nasty Israelis," think about how wealthy the Palestinians could have been by now. I don't remember exactly when the now-thriving port of Ashdod was built (it's artificial, not a natural port), but Gaza could have been a thriving port. Etc. etc. etc. Think Hong Kong, for a parallel example. The people of Hong Kong didn't sit around whining, and they have one of the most spectacular cities on earth.

Arafat's only contribution to history was the spread of terrorism. The murder of the Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympics opened an era. Let's hope that the current fighting in Iraq will mark the beginning of the end of Arafat's murderous legacy.

It's too bad that so many Europeans have been suckered into thinking that Arafat's some kind of nationalist hero.

“Naturally the common people don’t want war. But after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.”
--- Hermann Goering, Hitler’s Reich Marshall

Well, knock me over w/a feather, I agree w/the Syrian Defense Minister, via Roger L. Simon's blog:

The Syrian Defense Minister called Arafat "the son of sixty thousand whores,"

On the other hand, 60K seems a little low.

How could the death of one of the worlds most notorious teachers of hate, violence and terrorism, be used most significantly to benefit the Israelis???

One of the easiest ways to defeat your enemy is to turn them against themselves.

Israel has their wall (nearly), now all they have to do is covertly antagonize, prod and facilitate the opposing factions (trying to fill the former terrorists shoes, of course) to start going at each other’s throats…in the name of ma-hound, this obviously can’t be that difficult….(and remember, the Israelis are a sneaky bunch..they could probably pull this off!)

Then sit back and watch these nut-jobs shoot, bomb, stab and be-head each other,
while screaming ‘god is great’ at the top of their lungs. (of course) Strapping bombs on babies and catapulting them into enemy camps to die a glorious martyrs death.!!
I can’t wait to see the smiling faces of the proud parents. (actually I can..I’m being factious)

If they’re smart, Israel will arm both sides with as many sharp sticks and rocks as possible... just to perpetuate what I predict will be a highly entertaining (poor choice of words perhaps) ‘religion of peace’ freak show…maybe they’ll get lucky and they’ll all kill each other…

And I’d pay attention Euros..this might in fact be your own best scheme to rid yourselves of your own Muslim mess…

(yes, I’m being ‘a bit’ sarcastic, but I just couldn’t pass this one up.)

Phew, good thing you explicitly stated you were being sarcastic Kevin. You never know on this site you know, people say things like this being totally serious. Makes you kinda wonder what kind of people they really are.

On his funeral, the songs of lament should not be the usual wailing dirges, but something more fitting the man.

"Y-M-C-A!"
"Macho, macho man!"
"In the Navy!"

If you know what I mean, and I think you do. The doctors still refuse to reveal the "mysterious" illness which caused his death. Celebrity dies, cause not revealed. Sounds familiar? Hypocrisy everywhere.

What else can I say? I am filled with glee at the death of this "martyr" What a fitting end. May his piss-ridden, aids infested and blood guilty soul find eternal punishment. He died the death of a diseased dog. Good riddance.As for the lack of condemnation of this thugs long legacy of crimes against humanity. Shame on you appeasing ,ass-licking fawners.

Israel's death festival

Such unabashed glee is disrespectful and dangerous

Daphna Baram
Friday November 12, 2004
The Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/comment/0,10551,1349616,00.html

Y'know, ex-christian, it's odd, but I haven't been invited to any "Arafat is dead" party.

Not to mention that it's rather hypocritical for Palestinians and their supporters to complain about Israelis rejoicing, after the massive street parties we see whenever Israeli kids are blown up.

BTW - the sentence "Israeli comedians, who nowadays shy away from political satire directed at their own leaders" in that article makes me wonder how connected the author is to reality; she obviously isn't following Israeli television much.

Update on norwegian media. Yassir is now buried, but the eulogizing persists. Yassir is now a "saint", according to Nrk,among other praise for the late "statesman", on dagsrevyen, for the last ten minutes. Yes, these were the words used.
For good measure there has also been some eulogizing of the voice of the palestinian women, Suha, who can tell us that the best way to handle media is to not read newspapers, but stand on them.(sic)

Thank god for some balance in media. After the Yassir eulogizing, Nrk can tell us that the homosexuals of the US now are in fear of being persecuted, due to the reelection of president Bush, and the evil fundies, who probably will construct internment camps for them. Just so all of us knows evil exists in the world.

And I did not make up what I has written.

ROFL. That's incredible. Don't the Palestinians, um... kill homosexuals?

To bad he won't get to spend the 100's of millions of dollars he stole from his supporters. But of course now I assume it will go back to the Palestinian people. Right.

Who really cares? I don't think there will be much more peace there anyway...

One down, one to go...

I see a lot of people here are slightly annoyed that Arafats former terrorist and guerilla activities have been "forgotten" in many eulogies over him in the norwegien media.

On the other hand nobody speaks loudly about Irgun or Stern, the jewish terrorist organisations which forced the British to give up the control of Israel to the Jews.

Terrorism has always been the weapon of the weak against the strong, simply because it works. Some terrorists we glorify (Partisans in WW2), others we demonize (Osama et co.), and this should tell us that it is in reality not their acts that are being objected against, but rather their aims.

The US war on Iraq has f.ex. now killed between 100-200.000 civillian iraqis. Why is this much less condemned in western media, than the 3000 who were killed on sept 11? Are dropping bombs on civillians from great heights to save ones own soldiers lives more humane than flying planes into buildings? To the people killed I suspect the difference is rather small.

It is therefore not the means we mainly object to, it is the ends. The means are being demonized merely as an excuse so we don't have to get into an "ideological" debate. Therefore the poor mans fighting methods will allways be looked on as evil by the wealthy, as it will be looked at as heroic by the poor.

Why not simply be open, and argue against the goals of those who are labeled terrorists, there should be much to criticise in that departement. Is it perhaps because we don't want our own goals to be dissected and analyzed? Do we fear that someone would look at "peace, freedom and liberty" and find "imperialism" an "unfair distribution of wealth"?

I'm just asking...

The US war on Iraq has f.ex. now killed between 100-200.000 civillian iraqis.

Those numbers are highly disputed. Not that it matters for those who die.

Ø.

>> Why not simply be open, and argue against the goals of those who are labeled terrorists

Which is what I have been doing, concentrating on the goals. The Islamo-fascists want to a) subjugate people to their fascist ideals, and b) eradicate the jews. These are evil goals. The goal of americans in Iraq is to liberate them from a Nazi leader, and establish democracy, in order to remove a terror spondoring state, and remove a cause of terrorism.

There is a moral difference between deliberately attacking innocents, and attacking military targets, with civilian collateral damage.
AFAIK, the resistance movements in WW2 attacked military targets. When the insurgents in Iraq attack the US military, they are not being terrorists, they are simply enemy combatents.

If you can't see the moral difference between 3000 innocent people being murdered, and unfortunate and regrettable civilian casualties of a just war, then I feel sorry for you.

If you can think about a little russian girl running to drink water from a fountain because she hadn't had water for days, and being riddled with machine gun bullets by islamo fascists, and equate that morally with the use of military force to fight this evil, then I feel sorry for you.

The sort of moral relativism displayed by Ronny is today's mainstream opinion, as found in Norwegian media.
I am not surprised.
But I am still ashamed.

>> I am not surprised. But I am still ashamed.

I'm not surprised either. But don't be too ashamed, the US has more moral relativists than you can shake a stick at. They are just losing the war of ideas.

I don't normally say nice things when I can help it, but I must this once make an exception: I want a seperate comment on the European Moon Mission: good going, guys!

The first European space mission to the moon has been a success and is orbiting the world as we speak. A success for all involved.

Congrats and hails from the Center of Space here in Texas. You Europeans can write back and say "Houston, we do not have a problem!".

Bravo, bellisimo! Space is truly the new frontier. Nice to see some others up here.

I sure am proud of the fact that Norway took it upon itself to interfere...

Arafat's culture of hatred means Palestinians learn to hate Jews from the womb to the tomb.

According to polls by the Palestinian Centre for Policy and Survey Research, 60 percent of Palestinians support "suicide attacks." From an early age, Palestinian children learn from Israel-absent maps to hate Israelis and to seek the destruction of the State of Israel.

Three years ago, columnist Charles Krauthammer wrote:

Arafat is embarked on a strategy of war -- and has been ever since he signed the September 1993 Oslo 'peace' accords on the White House lawn. Don't take it from me. Take it from the mouth of one of the leading Palestinian moderates, Faisal Husseini. Shortly before his fatal heart attack last year, he openly admitted that Oslo was 'a Trojan Horse . . . just a temporary procedure . . . just a step toward something bigger.' That something bigger is 'Palestine from the river to the sea,' Husseini said, i.e., from the Jordan to the Mediterranean. That means eradicating Israel. Oslo? Just a way of 'ambushing the Israelis and cheating them.'

60 percent of Palestinians support "suicide attacks

Sure seems like a people worth supporting for their own state, eh?

If one really supported the so called "palestinian" people, one would be fighting / opposing / criticising the PLO and the arab states that sponsor him, instead of wearing scarves. Shall we count the number of articles that did that in the press?

But lefties prefer form over substance, and we're supposed to pretend that after decades of not noticing that the actual results have been the opposite of the stated goal, the proponents are just misguided, rather than guilty.

Gunnar et al.,

"But lefties prefer form over substance, and we're supposed to pretend that after decades of not noticing that the actual results have been the opposite of the stated goal, the proponents are just misguided, rather than guilty."

Yes, but it is far far worse than that. The language and ideological tenets of unanchored and self indulgent concepts like relativism, are truly compelling (behaviorally) when cast as unchallenged (which they sadly are at present), and one of the consequences is that ideas like suicide bombing as political expression can be "intellectually" (though never reasonably) rationalized.

As such, it is in a bizarre and bitterly ironic twist, the progressive left which most enables the ruthless machinations of hate ministers and nihilism propagandists to ply their trade openly in the PA areas, (indoctrinating even the masses of children in naked and murderous rage with a ruthless efficiency that rivals anything ever concocted by the Nazis)- This, while yet maintaining a credible public face as "peacemakers" in the West.

When anything can be anything than everything is nothing.

It is quite simply, abominable.

But you know... who are we to judge what is right and wrong after all, right? I for example, don't have any academic credentials from any "Peace Studies", which would (based on the mind "broadening" experience I would have therein) have authorized me to make pronouncements tolerable to the keepers of the public discourse.

Alas...

KM

About moral relativism:

You do not need to be a moral relativist to believe that killing thousands of civillians by bombing from high altitudes simply to keep your own military casualties at a minimal level is morally discusting, or to phrase it in the american right-wings own words: "Chicken shit".

This does not diminish the moral outrage over terrorist activities like 11/9 2001 (or 1973 for that matter).

The fact that you think that people at both sides in a conflict are behaving in a morally despicable way, does not make you a moral relativist, in fact, I find this to be the rule rather than the exeption in most historical armed conflicts.

I do however think some acts of violence are more justified than others. I will for example again mention the partisan activity during world war 2. Although methods sometimes were used in which civilians were killed, I believe that these often were justifiable (I will not say this on a general basis, as there will undoubtedly be exeptions also here).

Had the goals of the American war on terror really been peace, freedom and democracy, I would have applauded it, as, I believe, would most muslims, however, neither the current situation, or the history of american foreign policy supports such a theory.

If these are the goals of the US in the region, then why do they support Saudi-Arabia and Kuwait, two muslim countries who are about as undemocratic as you get? One rouled by a royal family, the other by a native elite, while the majority of the population are "guest workers" under slave contracts with no rights whatsoever.

The fact is that these regimes are very unstable, and the US fears that if these regimes are toppeled, their strategic control of the area and its resources will vanish. Therefore it is neccesarry for the US to get another client country (preferably more) in the region, and the first step in this project is Iraq (which seems to fail, as the current violence is only increasing the antagonisms both within Iraq, and between Iraquis and the occupying forces).

Since the US has supported people like Suharto, Pinochet, Somoza, the Shah, Saddam and so on, and generally has supported just as many dictators as they have toppeled, it is not hard to draw the conclusion that the reasons behind american foreign policy is not ideal ones, but simply to protect american interests abroad. This can of course lead to both positive and negative changes for the people inhabiting the countries, but it is hardly a democratic world society...

Firstly, this is a discussion about the late terrorist icon Yassir Arafat. It is not about dumb Bush, or evil amerikkkans, or the war on terrorism.

Secondly,the late Yassir was a killer. He killed thousands of mostly other arabs, including palestinians. It is a fair estimate he has killed more other arabs than the Isrelis have.The situation in the middle East, and particularly for the Palestinians would have been infinitely better, had he not existed. I admit there could have existed something worse, of course, but it is hard to imagine. And the arab world, assisted by western leftists, made this monster possible and respectable.

Blaming it all on America seems to be the only thing leftists can be consistent, and not morally relativistic, about.

indoctrinating even the masses of children in naked and murderous rage with a ruthless efficiency that rivals anything ever concocted by the Nazis)- This, while yet maintaining a credible public face as "peacemakers" in the West.

Great point. Hitler only had the hitler youth, but the PA/Syria/Iraq/Iran hate machine has improved greatly upon the Hitler scheme. I guess they got the idea from the last thing Hitler did: send small children out to face the soviet tanks and armor.

But you know... who are we to judge what is right and wrong after all, right? I for example, don't have any academic credentials from any "Peace Studies", which would (based on the mind "broadening" experience I would have therein) have authorized me to make pronouncements tolerable to the keepers of the public discourse.

LOL, love that dripping saracasm.

Another couple of words about Arafat. My entire point was that the current treatment of Arafat is not at all different from the treatment of the state of Israel, as the violent Irgun/Stern terrorism past of its founders is now forgotten. Then one can naturally discuss possible alternatives for Middel-East history until one gets blue in the face, that is something completely different.

Then to the lefts so-called anti-Americanism. It is my firm belief that the foreign policy of any country (not just the USA) is mainly formed in such a way that it serves the self-interests of the forces in power in that particular country.

Thus I believe that f.ex. the French and Russian opposition to the Iraq war was also founded in their regional interests, as they had many of the oil-contracts in Iraq before the invation.

The only reason that the US is getting an earful from 90% of the world population, is that at the current time in history the US is the single most dominant global force. If we go back a couple of decades, the Soviet Union was just as bad in its part of the world as the US was in f.ex. Latin-America. If we go further back, the British, French and German were spreading death over much of Africa, not to forget the Belgian king Leopold in the Congo, and one could generally make the list as long as one would like.

So it is not a criticism of the US in particular, but a criticism of egotistical use of force in general to protect ones own strategic and economic interests.

Kjell,
you are right, yasser arafat is nothing but a mass murderer. He amassed billions of dollar for his personal gains and for his cronies. But what can you expect from someone who tried to insinuate a Jesus in his speech promoting militancy? He was a good muslim skilled in the art of taquiyah dissimulation , deceit, treachery etc.

here is a link on islamist agenda:

http://www.geocities.com/islamic_monitor/index.html

thanks
Kim Sook-Im

Selective terror torpedoes advances in peace negotiations: Until May of 2002, one could argue that Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the PFLP, the DFLP, the PFLP-GC, Sayyif Allah, and Jayyish el-Jihad were terror groups not under Arafat’s control. So when spokespersons for these groups openly declared that they had perpetrated attacks precisely because they did not want peace talks to move forward, one could argue that they were acting independently and that Arafat was not responsible for these attempts to de-rail progress. But once the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) raided Arafat’s Muqata’ and captured tons of documentation from his archive and computers, it became clear that he had been heavily involved in the planning, funding, and execution of these attacks. They were part of his strategy; as were the attacks by the el-Aqsa martyrs’ brigade, Tanzim, Force 17, and Fatah, all of which were acknowledged to be under Arafat’s direct control.

Arafat was the Nazi calling the shots.

And perhaps worst of all, it is clear in hindsight (that hindsight which Ross omits) that by turning a blind eye to Arafat’s machinations, by pretending that it was Israel that had to be cajoled into more flexibility, more concessions, more risk-taking, by acting like the dog every time that Arafat rang the doorbell, they were empowering Arafat, enhancing his stature, supporting him before his constituency, weakening the already meager forces of democracy within the Palestinian Authority, and making it easier and easier for Arafat to avoid compromise, to forestall a deal.

The willful blindness of the American team, led by Dennis Ross, actually undermined the very process that they were supposed to be advancing. Ross et al are very much to blame for Arafat’s ability to keep the Intifada going, and thus to blame as well for the death of hundreds of Israelis.

Whoever continues to pretend that it is Israel that has to be cajoled into concessions can be only be considered to be supporting jew hatred.

[For] almost two decades, three American presidents, three Secretaries of State, one long-term advisor, and five Israeli Prime Ministers were all manipulated, intimidated, tricked, lied to, played for fools, humiliated, and exploited by one short, fat, stubble-faced, grubby looking Arab terrorist.

The Americans take most of the blame, but there is plenty of blame left over for the europeans, especially France, and also Norway.

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And the leftists claim that these are civilized people and deserve a state?

In a scene rebroadcast Saturday by the Fox News Channel, a little girl asks the talking chick, "What would you do if someone cut down your olive tree?"

"I'll fight them and make a big riot," the chick replies. "I'll call the whole world. I'll bring AK-47 assault rifles and commit a massacre in front of my house."

For those delusional leftists still hiding their "jew hatred":

In a seeming re-affirmation of the PLO's 1974 "destroy Israel" program, commonly known as the Phased Plan, Fatah co-founder Farouk Kadumi termed the struggle for a two-state solution just a “stage” on the road to “only one [state].”

Kadumi spoke on Nov. 29th with Iran’s Al-Aram television station. When the interviewer asked Kadumi, “What is the future of Palestine?” the PLO leader answered: “At this stage there will be two states. Many years from now there will be only one.”

He expressed confidence in the Arabs' ultimate victory, saying, “[There are] 300 million Arabs, while Israel has only the sea behind it.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=72993

Norway?

Geez. Too damn cold. Too damn leftist.

Protected from the real world. Can act like a seven year old, think like a 10 year old, and still have plenty of sardines.

Maybe they could say a few nice words about Hitler just to show some balance.

Arafat singlehandedly destroyed more Palestinian lives than any other human.

And as for the muslim factor:

25% of Palestinians are Christian.

Percent of suicide bombers who are Christian?

0.

hello Sally,
the statistical figures you quote is most evident that islam serves as the demonic force impelling the muslim palestinians to commit heinous deeds There is no moral compunction in Islam to love your enemy , on the contrary there is a lethal and twisted moral obligation to dispatch off your enemies !...or else Allah will curse you in the now and for eternity ( how clever of Mohammad to craft an exquisite manual of Terror !).

Naturally you will encounter blathering accusations as to your 'simplistic' and 'anecdotal' numerical evidence coming from the likes of Mr. Oeyvind Stroemmen who has for reasons still unknown to me elaborated a rather complex theory of apologia extraordinaire to exonerate the despicable behaviours of islamists at large. Prayerfully Mr. Pete of France (?) is more capable of objective analysis of available evidences as to not fall prey to leftist revisionism and denial:)

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cross-posting: posting the same text more than once.

bad-bad. no-no do dat anymore, capish?

O most noble and valiant warrior Gunnharr of the Highlands...yes now Princess Minnehaha she unnerstand , she mea culpa only one time , no ?, not 3x in all 3 different places she has caused desecration of the sacred totem of Chief Strong Bear ???

O thank you noble warrior ...thou hath rendered succour to a hapless indian maiden in her hour of need...may Hiawatha prepare you a happy hunting ground when you are ready to return to our forefathers. I must not tarry now for even as i speak one of your footsoldier of the Norweejah has been infected with the vile breath of Yshlam ..you will know him by his name:

" Øvil-Wind Streaming " of the tribe of Norweejah has been infected ...the minions of Yshlam has possessed him and caused him to babble incessantly in defense of the Demon Force Yshlam...I must prepare certain incantations to awaken "Øvil-Wind Streaming" from his demon possessed trance err he infects the other warriors of the Norweejah...fair thee well for now my brave Gunnharr.

Your humble maid servant, Princess Minnehaha of the Kooreeyah
謝謝和再見。韓國公主Minnehaha

>> " Øvil-Wind Streaming " of the tribe of Norweejah has been infected ...

Princess Minnehaha, you serve our tribe well, and your efforts are most appreciated by the true braves. I agree that Øvil-Wind Streaming is infected with the "see no evil, hear no evil" disease. He is like some of the Deutsche tribe people, who only after they came to Auschwitz did they say "oh, we didn't mean this".

For the great Kooreeyah tribe, evil is no abstract concept, since it's just north of the border, enslaving your fellow citizens.

I'm living here amongst the Ameerikana tribe, a very strong and wise people (http://www.spiritofamerica.net/). Although they have some cowering deer like people as well, the majority are warrior braves who believe in "whoop ass" against the forces of evil. However, the evil tribes are joyous today that super tough man Bernard Kerik won't be heading the Ameerikana homeland defense.

Gunharr of Norweejah tribe

I do not see you Minnehaha, but I see your words, and I hear your stories of an infection.

Alas, I fear that you speak with a forked tongue and that you carry little wisdom into our tiny village in the Cold Lands.

Before you others have visited my tent, and they have shared their tea with me and we have smoked from the same pipe. While you utter insults, they did not. But their eyes were brown and their skin dark and they talked of a spirit in the sky unknown to a humble storyteller like myself. When I sat at the fire with my friends in the evening, they asked me to tell them more about these strange visitors. Alas, I could not.

So I went to the place of a thousand tents, were small spots of black carry more wisdom than any man can ever dream to. And I listened to the wisest of the larger tribes, and I met more strangers from the tribes you say are infected with an evil Spirit. And, dear maiden, their stories were both intriguing and scary, both wonderful and horrible.

Amongst my people, the humble tribe of the Norweejah, there are still many spirits.

Gradually, I came to understand that there were many spirits amongst these tribes, as well. Oh yes, I heard evil and foul deeds. Indeed, I saw those who were besmitten by a dark disease in their hearts. But I came to realize that the dark disease was not, as you claim, Yishlam. I came to realize that there was not merely one dark disease. There were many. And I came to realize that not only spreaders of disease were to be found amongst the tribes of Yishlam, but also wise men that carried the remedy.

I asked some of those wise men to accompany me to my village, and to sit down with my friends around the campfire and tell the stories, after all they knew it better than I would. But when we had crossed the hills and fiords and reached my tiny homestead I discovered that others like you had been there, and my tent and other tents had been vandalized by them and some of my brothers minds had been infected with a hatred I had only heard about in stories from our sad past. Those who profess belief in that other Spirit of the Sky, they said, are all infected.

This is when I saw fear in the faces of my companions, who had travelled together with me and shared their thoughts and their dreams and their food and their water. I saw fear in their faces!

And I knew, Minnehaha, that that fear was a result of the same stories that you now tell. I knew, Minnehaha, that that fright was a result of false stories you now repeat. And yet, you are the one who talks of Evil, and this puzzles me beyond words.

Lucky Stream.

O brave Gunnharr of the land of mary...

Words have just arrived from the Wakan Tanka that the minions of Yshlam have gathered at their sacred totem of Mah-Kah to do the evil moon dance to invoke the wrath of Yshlam on the unsuspecting tribes of the Free Confederation of Braves and Squaws.

O brave Gunnharr do enter the sacred codes into your magic mirror and see for yourself this most foul and evil gatherings of the minions of Yshlam:

Sacred Codes:

http://terroristmedia.com/duafull.swf

Make haste O brave Gunnharr, beat out the sacred codes on your war drums so that the other braves may see for themselves this most evil of gatherings and prepare themselves for battle with the forces of the evil one Yshlam

A maiden in distress....Princess Minnehaha of the Kooreeyahs
한국 부족의 고민....princess Minnehaha안에 하녀
en hjälplös mö i nöd. prinsessan minnehaha av Kooreeyah folkstam

This speech was made in 2001. The pictures have been added by someone else, and obviously on a later date. This movie is a propaganda movie, and militant Islamists do their propaganda well.

The speaker is a wahhabi. Wahhabism is a genuine problem within Islam - as I have repeatedly stated. Their access to oil money and control over the holiest places of Islam has enabled them to spread their ideology, an ideology that preaches hatred not only against Jews and Christians, but also against other Muslims, especially Sufis and Shias.

The speech was made in Saudi-Arabia. The government of Saudi-Arabia has de facto been protected by the United States since just after the WWII.

The government did arrest this speaker, but is, in itself a result of an alliance between the House of Saud and wahhabist preachers.

A book worth reading: Sleeping with the Devil - how Washington sold our soul for Saudi crude.

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Solomonia: Death of a Terrorist, November 12, 2004 01:23 AM

From LGF: At the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the names of his victims only since 2000! Do the right thing and take a moment to click on a couple and put a face with the letters on the page....